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Tuesday, June 10, 2008

When Is A Cure NOT A Cure?

Scott Fischbach from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life has an op-ed in the Star Tribune taking Rep. Phyllis Kahn to task for her advocacy of a bill that funds embryonic stem cell research in Minnesota. I wrote a little bit about the floor debate on Rep. Kahn's bill when the conference bill passed the House at the end of the session. What propmted Scott to write was a June 2 op-ed by Rep. Kahn herself, taking the governor to task for vetoing the bill. Rep. Kahn continues to insist many things about her stem cell bill but Mr. Fischbach obliterates the most disingenuous of Rep. Kahn's claims.

Kahn says her legislation "outlawed human cloning," but the bill explicitly authorizes "somatic cell nuclear transplantation" (SCNT), which is the technique by which cloning occurs. The National Institutes of Health calls SCNT "the scientific term for cloning."

Rep. Kahn suffered another blow to her argument for HESC research earlier this month. The Star Tribune reported on a mother whose drive and devotion to her sons led to the development of a cure for their very rare skin disorder.

Last fall doctors at the University of Minnesota did a bone marrow transplant on a 2-year-old boy in a risky attempt to treat his devastating genetic skin disease with stem cells. Until then, the technique had only been used in mice.

It worked.

The boy's doctors said Monday they think they have found a cure for the painful disease that, though rare, causes the skin to fall off at the slightest touch and inevitably leads to cancer. Most children who have it do not survive to adulthood.

It takes the Strib a while to get to it, but they finally do tell you where these stem cells come from....and it was not frozen embryos.

Researchers at the university, which specializes in adult stem cells, began experimenting with a variety of stem cells found in bone marrow and blood from umbilical cords. Dr. Jakub Tolar, a blood specialist at the university, said he tried 10 to 15 different classes of cells in the genetically engineered mice in the hopes that one would provide the missing protein.

Finally, one did.

This is just one more cure to add to the already long list of cures and potential cures that have come from adult and umbilical cord stem cells. We are still waiting for the first to come from embryonic stem cells. Perhaps Rep. Kahn should go back to school to learn a little more about the process. It should be awfully convenient for her...after all - the University IS in her district after all...

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9 Comments:

  • Perhaps you haven't been keeping up with the news, but embryonic stem cells have been shown to cure diseases, some of which cannot be cured by adult stem cells.

    I'd still accept it if you claim adult stem cells have lead to more treatments than embryonic stem cells (probably because adult stem cell research receives five times more NIH funding than is given to embryonic stem cells), but I won't accept you claiming that the ESCs are useless.

    By Blogger Joshua, at 8:50 AM  

  • @Joshua

    LL, didn't claim that ESCs are useless, that would have been mental suicide and untenable. However, your claim that ESCs are the only way to treat certain diseases needs proof. To what are you specifically referring? The problem that most of us find with ESCs is the moral issue of taking a life without consent for the benefit of another.

    By Blogger tsh, at 11:50 AM  

  • Joshua - your links did not come through in the comment when I published it. Please send them to me off list.

    If you noticed, the post I linked to was over a year old and things have indeed changed since then. However when you consider that HESC started out at a 70 to nothing deficit, they have a long way to go to be as beneficial as ASC research is.

    LL

    By Blogger The Lady Logician, at 3:07 PM  

  • Also - if HESC was as good as it's proponents say, why are they not getting the massive amounts of private funding that the alternatives are getting.

    The government (in this case NIH) should not be funding everything. If the research is as beneficial as you claim it will get the funding necessary from other sources.

    LL

    By Blogger The Lady Logician, at 3:09 PM  

  • http://themoderatevoice.com/society/pets/20263/the-war-on-vegans-is-at-hand/?disqus_reply=638404#comment-638404

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:24 PM  

  • Can anyone post ONE person or info on anyone who has been cured by the use of stem cells?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:15 PM  

  • Joshua - thanks for the links. I am looking at them tonight and I will try to have a follow up post soon - just maybe not this week due to moving.

    Anon - it depends on what kinds of stem cells you are talking about. If you are talking about adult/blood cord, I posted about TWO in the post above. If you are talking about embryonic perhaps Joshua or my anonymous snarker can educate us.

    LL

    By Blogger The Lady Logician, at 7:16 PM  

  • As far as I'm aware, no clinical trials have been approved for embryonic stem cells. The biotech company Geron has one awaiting approval (in the area of spinal tissue repair), but as that is one of the first it will probably take a while to be approved by the FDA.

    So no people have been cured by embryonic stem cells. Just rats, mice and other lab animals.

    By Blogger Joshua, at 7:49 PM  

  • Thanks Joshua.

    LL

    By Blogger The Lady Logician, at 8:28 PM  

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