The Faith Of Our (Founding) Fathers (Part 3)

So an anonymous snarker left this gem behind to my last post....

The founding fathers also denied the right to vote to women, allowed people to own slaves, counted such slaves as three-fifths of a person, allowed a president to serve as many terms as he is elected for, and it contained no mention of the right to bear arms, worship freely, enjoy a free press, be tried in a public and speedy manner, be free of unreasonable searches and seizures, or to not be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment.

We can learn a lot from old dead guys, but there's a lot we as a nation have chosen to reject.

And while Anonymous has a point, (s)he is not-surprisingly lacking in his/her knowledge of history. For example...

allowed people to own slaves,

Jefferson and Washington freed their slaves and helped lay the groundwork for freeing the slaves.

counted such slaves as three-fifths of a person

This (and allowing people to own slaves) we political concessions that were made to Southern States but these were not views shared by the majority of the Founders. As a matter of FACT Thomas Jefferson even proposed the first bill in the legislature to ABOLISH slavery! George Mason (the "Father of the Bill of Rights" was also in favor of abolition and Benjamin Franklin was an advocate for abolition as well. If you dig past the "feelings" and the "assumptions" Anonymous and actually dig into the FACTS you just might learn a thing or three!

and it contained no mention of the right to bear arms, worship freely, enjoy a free press, be tried in a public and speedy manner, be free of unreasonable searches and seizures, or to not be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment.

Now this part of the comment I am trying to figure out. Considering there is this little thing called the BILL OF RIGHTS that guarantees ALL of those rights, I am trying to figure out if Anonymous is just unaware that such a document exists or if Anonymous is rejecting the rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. Which is it dear?

Now on to this statement.....

The founding fathers also denied the right to vote to women

When you compare the Founding Fathers (and their faith) to other religious practitioners and socio-economic "innovators" and other faiths, you will find that they were quite "progressive" in that arena as well. The one religion that modern day "progressives" coddle, Islam, considers women to be PROPERTY. They not only do not have voting rights - in most Islamic states they have NO RIGHTS AT ALL! When it comes to human rights as a whole, Communist/Socialist countries have huge problems. Under the guise of advancing Karl Marx's agenda, Vladmir Lenin jailed, enslaved and murdered millions of men, women and children because someone in their family dared to disagree with "the chosen one" Lenin (and his successor Joseph Stalin).

When it comes to the religious angle, I go back to the Bible. The Old Testament has a long list of admonitions to the Jews regarding freeing slaves. Being as they were once held as slaves themselves, the Jews were all to aware of the plight of slaves. Regarding women St. Paul, in his letter to the Galation Church took it a step further....

So you are all children [fn] of God through faith in Christ Jesus. And all who have been united with Christ in baptism have been made like him. There is no longer Jew or Gentile, [fn] slave or free, male or female. For you are all Christians--you are one in Christ Jesus

So now Anonymous - what was that you were saying rejecting the lessons of old, dead guys?