What Is The Real Agenda?
Well I figure since I have hit the topics of abortion and elder health care this week I might as well go for the trifecta....
Earlier this week, Governor Huntsman started a local firestorm by saying that he supported civil unions for same sex couples. That led many of his supporters (from the past election) just a little upset. Several Legislators held a rally yesterday at the Capital to denounce the Governor, while a group of gay rights activists held their own rallies at the Capital and the Governor's Mansion. The rationale that gay rights activists use to push for gay marriage has to do (mostly) with the inheritance concerns and the ability to visit ones partner in the hospital as "family". This is a concern that many married couples and common law couples have. The good news is there is a way to solve these issues without getting the long arm of the Legislature involved. It's called hire a lawyer (it doesn't even have to be a "good" lawyer) and draw up a will (to take care of the inheritance concerns), a power of attorney (for making those life and death hospital decisions) and a trust (for other survivorship issues). A legal "guardianship" document may also be drawn up in advance for those times when (God forbid) one partner is incapacitated. The bottom line is your lawyer is far better suited to look out for your rights than nanny government will ever be!
Which is why so many people feel that the push for "gay marriage" is less about marriage and more about normalizing a lifestyle choice that the vast majority of Americans do not share. Based on the activities of the anti-Prop 8 advocates, many Americans are feeling like they are having this lifestyle choice "shoved" down their throats by the same people that excoriate the Mormons and Catholics for shoving their lifestyle choices down on them! That is probably the most ironic thing about this debate. The gay normalization advocates have no qualms about shoving their lifestyle choice down the throats of Christians all the while screaming at Christians not to shove "our" lifestyle choices on them. Here's a radical thought. Try showing a little respect to the Mormons and Christians. Their response just might surprise you.
Earlier this week, Governor Huntsman started a local firestorm by saying that he supported civil unions for same sex couples. That led many of his supporters (from the past election) just a little upset. Several Legislators held a rally yesterday at the Capital to denounce the Governor, while a group of gay rights activists held their own rallies at the Capital and the Governor's Mansion. The rationale that gay rights activists use to push for gay marriage has to do (mostly) with the inheritance concerns and the ability to visit ones partner in the hospital as "family". This is a concern that many married couples and common law couples have. The good news is there is a way to solve these issues without getting the long arm of the Legislature involved. It's called hire a lawyer (it doesn't even have to be a "good" lawyer) and draw up a will (to take care of the inheritance concerns), a power of attorney (for making those life and death hospital decisions) and a trust (for other survivorship issues). A legal "guardianship" document may also be drawn up in advance for those times when (God forbid) one partner is incapacitated. The bottom line is your lawyer is far better suited to look out for your rights than nanny government will ever be!
Which is why so many people feel that the push for "gay marriage" is less about marriage and more about normalizing a lifestyle choice that the vast majority of Americans do not share. Based on the activities of the anti-Prop 8 advocates, many Americans are feeling like they are having this lifestyle choice "shoved" down their throats by the same people that excoriate the Mormons and Catholics for shoving their lifestyle choices down on them! That is probably the most ironic thing about this debate. The gay normalization advocates have no qualms about shoving their lifestyle choice down the throats of Christians all the while screaming at Christians not to shove "our" lifestyle choices on them. Here's a radical thought. Try showing a little respect to the Mormons and Christians. Their response just might surprise you.
Labels: Gay Marriage
posted by The Lady Logician at
8:01 PM
11 Comments:
It would be nice if the Prop 8 supporters would show some respect for people's constitutional rights.
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rmwarnick, at 9:50 AM
Prop 8 is the constitution. To paraphrase everyone's favorite president - the people have spoken, we won.
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Cameron, at 10:31 AM
Well, Cameron, the California Supreme Court may have something to say about what is and is not constitutional in California.
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rmwarnick, at 12:17 PM
From your link:
UC Berkeley emeritus law professor Stephen Barnett said Tuesday that both challenges were "long shots."
And why are they long shots? Because it takes a lot of mental gyrations to argue an amendment to a constitution is somehow unconstitutional.
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Cameron, at 12:27 PM
We shall see.
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rmwarnick, at 1:24 PM
Richard - please show us WHERE in the Constitution it says you have the "right" to get married. It simply does not say that anywhere and you get BETTER protections via the methods I mention in the post than you do with a piece of paper that says you are married. Even married hetero couples have to do all this so what's the difference? The only difference I can see is that it is forcing church's to accept something that goes against their teachings and that is unconstitutional!
LL
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The Lady Logician, at 2:18 PM
LL-
It may have escaped you notice, but the US Constitution prohibits establishment of religion.
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rmwarnick, at 2:21 PM
Richard - the 1st Amendment says...
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
It's a 2 way street. The First Amendment does not guarantee the right to marriage either so I am still not seeing how anyone's rights have been "stripped" as the Anti-8 proponents are claiming.
LL
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The Lady Logician, at 3:04 PM
Equal rights for every American prohibits the free exercise of religion how?
If you don't like same sex marriage, then don't marry someone of the same sex. See how simple that is?
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rmwarnick, at 4:41 PM
LOL @ rmwarnick. Exactly.
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Jason The, at 5:33 PM
Same sex unions are not accepted by most churches. When you force (through government fiat) a church that does not agree with that to accept it then yes you ARE interfering with the free practice of that religion.
Show me where the right to marriage exists in the Constitution Richard?
LL
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The Lady Logician, at 9:46 AM
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