The New Front in Nanny Statism
Expect this to become the newest front in the Nanny state's battle against personal responsibility.
There are legit religious reasons to object to vaccinations if you are of that particular faith (which I am not BTW). I personally believe that all of the inventions and progress we have made are due to the talent that God has infused into each and every one of us. I also recognize that there is a greater good that is served by the innoculations. As the article states...
However, what worries me is this attitude.
Now if immunizations work, then the only people a non-vaccinated person will affect would be another non-immunized person right? Not necessarily and that goes to the crux of what the people who are against the vaccines are saying. I know a couple of people in this "movement" and their reasoning (again, I don't fully agree with it but I understand it) for not vaccinating their children stems from the possible side effects that these drugs have. Now if you have ever seen any of the advertisements for new drugs you have no doubt see the long list of potential side effects - some of which can be calamitous. Their argument is certainly compelling.
Captain Ed interviewed David Harsanyi, the author of "Nanny State: How Food Fascists, Teetotaling Do-Gooders, Priggish Moralists, and other Boneheaded Bureaucrats are Turning America into a Nation of Children" on his Blog Talk Radio program today. While most of their discussion turned to centered on food choices and exercise in the realm of universal health care, the vaccine issue certainly could fit into the discussion. If the government is paying for "your" health care there is certainly no reason why they can not (or will not) tell you what vaccinations that you will be required to take (since the vaccine is cheaper than paying for the cure to the disease).
We have this think in the Constitution called the "Establishment Clause". Universal healthcare forcing immunizations on specific religions will fall in direct violation of the Establishment Clause. This will be one more thing that will need to be ironed out before Universal Healthcare becomes a reality.
"An Associated Press examination of states' vaccination records and data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that many states are seeing increases in the rate of religious exemptions claimed for kindergartners.
"Do I think that religious exemptions have become the default? Absolutely," said Dr.
Paul Offit, head of infectious diseases at Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and one of the harshest critics of the anti-vaccine movement. He said the resistance to vaccines is "an irrational, fear-based decision."
There are legit religious reasons to object to vaccinations if you are of that particular faith (which I am not BTW). I personally believe that all of the inventions and progress we have made are due to the talent that God has infused into each and every one of us. I also recognize that there is a greater good that is served by the innoculations. As the article states...
But public health officials say it takes only a few people to cause an
outbreak that can put large numbers of lives at risk.
However, what worries me is this attitude.
"When you choose not to get a vaccine, you're not just making a choice for yourself, you're making a choice for the person sitting next to you," said Dr. Lance Rodewald, director of the CDC's Immunization Services Division."
Now if immunizations work, then the only people a non-vaccinated person will affect would be another non-immunized person right? Not necessarily and that goes to the crux of what the people who are against the vaccines are saying. I know a couple of people in this "movement" and their reasoning (again, I don't fully agree with it but I understand it) for not vaccinating their children stems from the possible side effects that these drugs have. Now if you have ever seen any of the advertisements for new drugs you have no doubt see the long list of potential side effects - some of which can be calamitous. Their argument is certainly compelling.
Captain Ed interviewed David Harsanyi, the author of "Nanny State: How Food Fascists, Teetotaling Do-Gooders, Priggish Moralists, and other Boneheaded Bureaucrats are Turning America into a Nation of Children" on his Blog Talk Radio program today. While most of their discussion turned to centered on food choices and exercise in the realm of universal health care, the vaccine issue certainly could fit into the discussion. If the government is paying for "your" health care there is certainly no reason why they can not (or will not) tell you what vaccinations that you will be required to take (since the vaccine is cheaper than paying for the cure to the disease).
We have this think in the Constitution called the "Establishment Clause". Universal healthcare forcing immunizations on specific religions will fall in direct violation of the Establishment Clause. This will be one more thing that will need to be ironed out before Universal Healthcare becomes a reality.
Labels: Nanny Government, Universal Health Care
4 Comments:
"If the government is paying for 'your' health care there is certainly no reason why they can not (or will not) tell you what vaccinations that you will be required to take (since the vaccine is cheaper than paying for the cure to the disease)."
Now which is more likely:
(a) The government requiring vaccinations when there are longstanding laws and Supreme Court precedent prohibiting forced medication and under which you have some constitutional protections (see, for example the religious opt-out provisions you were just talking about that are already in place); or
(b) The private healthcare mega-corporation your employer contracted with (giving you no choice) that has issued you a policy with fine-print requirements that you have to give your kids the immunizations because otherwise the illness isn't covered?
Don't the same economic forces apply to both? Only one has rules in force that prohibit it, the other better not be reading this blog lest they get some new ideas for denying coverage.
By Anonymous, at 4:22 PM
I think your understanding of the Constitution and Supreme Court precedent is faulty. Requiring children to be vaccinated is not an establishment of religion. It does not violate the Establishment Clause. It could arguably be considered a violation of the freedom of religion clause if the parents belonged to a religion that does not believe in vaccinations, but Supreme Court precedent would shoot down that argument because compulsory vaccination statutes are neutral on their face toward religion. And the Supreme Court has long upheld compulsory vaccination starting with a 1905 decision in Jacobson v. Massachusetts.
By Skipper60601, at 8:28 AM
Skipper, there are very few states where there are NOT laws in place that allow for religious opt-outs. They are respected, as evidenced by the post the Lady put up. It's the refusal to partake of the vaccine that implicates the First Amendment, and it's not the establishment clause that comes into play, but rather the free exercise clause.
I think it's pretty unlikely in this day and age that under normal, non-public health emergency settings, that the state laws allowing opt-out will be honored. They have been for decades now, what makes you think that will change? Those who oppose those opt-out provisions are unlikely to be re-elected in today's landscape.
Unlike the bigwigs in your health insurance company, who are answerable to.... whom? You, the patient? Ha. You, the one who pays the premiums? Unlikely.
The Lady's paranoia is (as seems so frequently the case) aimed at "gummint" when it is far more likely that her options are going to be limited by the marketplace she holds in such high eseteem.
By Anonymous, at 4:32 PM
If there was Universal Health Care back when I had my brain surgery, I'd hate to think what would have happened had the government decided that I should have had chemo therapy after my surgery. With chemo at such a young age, my growth would have been stunted, I would never have menstrated and would be barren.
Thank God there was no Unversial Health Care.
By Anonymous, at 1:29 PM
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